Volition’s new owner

Koch Media had the highest bid on Volition, and presumably the Saints Row IP along with it (though it’s not specifically mentioned.) You may know them better by their game publishing arm named Deep Silver who has been responsible for titles like Dead Island, Sacred 2, and Risen. Deep Silver are also responsible for some of the most backwards terrible unapologetic misogyny in the industry with the Dead Island torso statue situation. I really don’t see how I can feel good about supporting anything that they have their hands in no matter how much I love the series.

17 Responses to “Volition’s new owner”

  1. Luckz says:

    Seems.. better than THQ to me? :3

  2. VladiMatt says:

    How’s the Dead Island torso statue at all misogynistic? It’s a pair of breasts, and in the post just below this on your home page, there’s also a pair of breasts pictured.

    Saints Row the Third has a sex appeal slider that makes female characters’ breasts bigger/smaller, that’s WAY more “misogynistic” than a statue of a torso with breasts.

    Just my $0.02 – beyond that, keep on being rad and providing awesome fixes and such for the greatest sandbox fuck-around games ever!

    • IdolNinja says:

      The woman in the picture below actually has, you know, a face and limbs. The statue literally reduces a woman to only her “important” parts. Give this a watch and maybe you’ll see where I’m coming from:

      Objectification and sexism like this are part of a symptom of a much larger problem of misogyny in the game industry. There is a stunning history there of how women are treated, and if you haven’t seen any of the #1reasonwhy discussion then give this a read:

      • VladiMatt says:

        I do agree that sexism is rampant in the gaming industry, to the point where I’m actually surprised when a game DOESN’T glorify the sexy bits, but there’s an evolutionary and social reason as to why sex sells: most gamers are like myself, fat, hairy guys with shitty social skills and absolutely zero sex appeal. It’s an evolutionary fact that men are perverts, and gamer geeks are no exception.

        I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just saying that its understandable.

        • IdolNinja says:

          I’m all for perversion between two or more consenting adults. We can still be perverts but not lie down and simply accept behavior that treats women like objects as the norm or as “evolutionary.”

      • Mathmos says:

        +1 IdolNinja

  3. K-Bone says:

    Complaining about Misogyny,yet loves Saints Row. Isn’t that like saying that Duke Nukem’s a womanizer?

    • IdolNinja says:

      I think it’s very different. The Saints Row series of games is extremely progressive and gives a woman agency in how they can create a strong character of any shape, size, and color.

  4. SaintSiders says:

    They got Saints Row IP too,it was in Deep Silver official PR.

    Red Faction and other IPs that Volition made however will be for sale separately in few weeks.

    and sorry but not supporting SR before the new publisher throw some bad stuff before is weird,anyway it’s your call,oh well I’ll miss the mods in SR4.

    • IdolNinja says:

      Yeah, I just saw that too about the Saints Row IP coming with them. The other stuff like Summoner, Freespace, and Red Faction are likely lumped together in what they are calling “Legacy IP” that is staying with THQ to auction separately.

      Also, I’m not saying that I’m all extreme/raging and boycotting the game. I haven’t really decided what I want to do. I just take serious issue with Deep Silver and what happened. The situation is troubling and I think it’s something that needs to be brought to light and discussed instead of just being casually dismissed.

  5. Hahahaha says:

    Holy fuck.

    Saints Row is doomed.

    Koch Media/Deep Silver are fucking *nobodies*

    Let’s see, they’ve done what… Dead Island? (which sucks)

    Welp, there goes any chance of SR4 being better than SR3 out the window.

    We’ll never have a Saints game like SR2 again. Shiiiit.

    • IdolNinja says:

      It’s not as bad as you think. Volition is still developing Saints Row and they will retain their staff and still be located in Champaigne, IL. Koch Media/Deep Silver is only going to be publishing the game. As far as the quality goes, I just hope they have more resources and time for SR4.

  6. Sehvekah says:

    They may be juvenile, sexist idiots, but it looks to me that they’ve got a “hands off” approach to their dev teams, which means good things for when the Saints Go Fourth.

    At least from my perspective.

    Now Ubisoft picking up the South Park game? DRM, DRM *Everywhere*…

    • IdolNinja says:

      If they truly give Volition free reign to build the game they want to, with the resources and time they need, then it will definitely be a good thing.

  7. azureguy says:

    This isn’t the first time a PR desaster like the torso happened – for God of War 2, Sony butchered a living goat. Now THAT’s tasteless!

    Deep Silver is a normal publisher, not like Activision or EA who will dictate some changes to be made on the game or fire the entire team if one game performed poorly. Volition Inc. can do their work unhindered just like under THQ’s reign.
    It’s recommendable that you don’t treat this as “just another misstep by a publisher” but instead think of it as offensive (which kind-of is) but don’t think of the new owner badly just because of this one mistake. There are plenty of developers and publishers out there who really deserve to be hated/boycotted, but not Deep Silver.

    • IdolNinja says:

      I agree about the goat thing from the God of War event. That was certainly a low point in the history of PR in this industry, and that’s saying something! While the torso situation is similarly tasteless, I think it goes beyond just that and sends a message:
      * The only valuable part of a woman are her sexual appendages
      * That objectification and sexualized violence against women is something to display and be proud of
      * That our industry is a culture of misogyny that devalues women to the point where Deep Silver didn’t see a problem with it (and a lot of fans still don’t)

      The thought of them doing marketing for Saints Row and/or influencing development really worries me. I also find it difficult to want to support that kind of company. The whole thing is just troubling.

  8. ledude says:

    so saints row 4 will be nothing more than an eye candy trailer…